Curse

chris10188 · Dec 13, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29

ok SO i got help on making a warrior/monk runner.. of course i didnt stop to think.." hey, waht do i do when im not running?"

and now im comming to you for help
i have no clue what kind of build to make for w/mo with only proficies skills
all the builds i have looked up contain the other campaigns or are based around some elite skill that i wont get for quite a while [ im only in LA]

anybody help me out with a build or info so i can save the second half of his life, and actually make him usefull all around.

MAJOR EDIT:
okay if your reading this read the last page for the new help i need so i dont have to make another whole topic to bug you people

Pyro maniac · Dec 13, 2007, 08:47 PM // 20:47

[skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]protector's strike[/skill][skill]healing signet[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
+ some other skill

Just stick with your warrior skills.
when you are in the southern shiverpeaks, cap [wiki]Eviscerate[/wiki] and [wiki]Cleave[/wiki]

and switch to axe

**Marty Silverblade** · Dec 13, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35

Prophecies only sword users have 2 options: Get an axe or another campaign. No elite (hundred blades doesn't count for obvious reasons) means you just can't match Eviscerate. Try something like this:

[card]Eviscerate[/card][card]Executioner's Strike[/card][card]Cyclone Axe[/card][card]Frenzy[/card][card]Rush[/card][card]Healing Signet[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card] +1 appropriate utility. Replace Cyclone Axe if you don't like it. Cleave is available much earlier then Evis, so swap them and Cyclone Axe with Dismember.

chris10188 · Dec 13, 2007, 11:32 PM // 23:32

well junk...
had a nice sword and everything!
o well... thanks for the tips, any other help is always welcome

moriz · Dec 14, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23

sword does not really need an elite to function. that's why you would've seen so many sword warriors using elites from tactics, strength, or even elites from secondaries before the release of factions and NF.

you have sever-gash-final thrust. there's your damage right there.

**Marty Silverblade** · Dec 14, 2007, 04:11 AM // 04:11

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Originally Posted by moriz

sword does not really need an elite to function. that's why you would've seen so many sword warriors using elites from tactics, strength, or even elites from secondaries before the release of factions and NF.

you have sever-gash-final thrust. there's your damage right there.

So you're going by what alot of Warriors have been doing. A large percentage use Mending and Healing Breeze. Is it useful? NO!

In prophecies, there aren't really any viable options for non-attack elites from different attributes.

And btw, Sever/Gash is annoying when you end up killing the target before you can get Gash off, so it's a bit meh to me.

blue.rellik · Dec 14, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

Hammers are nice. You have the best Hammer elites available in Prophecies

moriz · Dec 14, 2007, 04:52 AM // 04:52

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

So you're going by what alot of Warriors have been doing. A large percentage use Mending and Healing Breeze. Is it useful? NO!

In prophecies, there aren't really any viable options for non-attack elites from different attributes.

And btw, Sever/Gash is annoying when you end up killing the target before you can get Gash off, so it's a bit meh to me.

before NF, a large percentage of pvp sword warriors used "CHARGE!" as their elite and sever-gash-final thrust (at 14 sword) as their damage. was it useful? YES! is it still useful? YES, especially it's the best the OP have access to.

sever-gash-final is still one of the most damaging spikes in the game. it's only drawback is that it is slow, which isn't much of a disadvantage in pve. final thrust was the reason why there weren't any good sword elites before factions and NF, simply because it does enough damage by itself, and downright overpowered with a good sword elites. this is also why the sword elites from factions and NF (dragon slash and crippling slash) specifically have high adrenaline costs, simply because anet does not want them to synegize with final thrust.

chris10188 · Dec 14, 2007, 04:56 AM // 04:56

yes but no shield, loss of that health and damage buffers
i WAS guna make a hammer warrior with ele earth skills so i could make that earthquake build...

but i found out thats not in proficies... so i dont know what kind of build i would do if i were to go hammer... its not as fast, i only have 2 abilities in hammer... its wierd

chris10188 · Dec 21, 2007, 01:58 AM // 01:58

i recentally got myself an axe,set up some skills i found to chain together good and its working pretty well.. does more damage then the sword did but not as constant
although i think my running days are over.. i seem to suck at it quite a bit...dying for stupid reasons on emimies that shouldent be able to kill me. but thats not important...
thanks for the help everyone

ghostlyfenix · Dec 21, 2007, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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Originally Posted by moriz

before NF, a large percentage of pvp sword warriors used "CHARGE!" as their elite and sever-gash-final thrust (at 14 sword) as their damage. was it useful? YES! is it still useful? YES, especially it's the best the OP have access to.

sever-gash-final is still one of the most damaging spikes in the game. it's only drawback is that it is slow, which isn't much of a disadvantage in pve. final thrust was the reason why there weren't any good sword elites before factions and NF, simply because it does enough damage by itself, and downright overpowered with a good sword elites. this is also why the sword elites from factions and NF (dragon slash and crippling slash) specifically have high adrenaline costs, simply because anet does not want them to synegize with final thrust.

bulls charge > charge

yum · Dec 21, 2007, 04:21 AM // 04:21

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Originally Posted by ghostlyfenix

bulls charge > charge

how?

iridescentfyre · Dec 21, 2007, 07:23 AM // 07:23

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Originally Posted by ghostlyfenix

bulls charge > charge

Why would you bother comparing the two? They aren't really even used for the same things...

Lykan · Dec 21, 2007, 08:57 AM // 08:57

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Originally Posted by chris10188

ok SO i got help on making a warrior/monk runner.. of course i didnt stop to think.." hey, waht do i do when im not running?"
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this almost made me cry...
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KILL STUFF!!!!!

Crom The Pale · Dec 21, 2007, 01:33 PM // 13:33

You can use a sword very effectively with out an elite sword attack, just because its not comparable to a Dragon Slash build doesn't mean it cant be used.

Charge is a good elite for a war to bring, it helps the casters with kiting and melee to chase down kiters.

Defy Pain, though hated by many, is a good skill to bring. It grants you extra armor and hp wich can allow you to focus on attacking and not worry about taking damage.

Hundred Blades, while not popular, can be used as a fast means of charging all of your adrenaline skills if you hit enough foes at once. It is not a damage skill as many try to make it.

Stormlord Alex · Dec 21, 2007, 02:01 PM // 14:01

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Defy Pain, though hated by many, is a good skill to bring. It grants you extra armor and hp wich can allow you to focus on attacking and not worry about taking damage.

No, it is hated by many because it is actually a bad skill.
It is a bad skill.
Do not bring it.

A Leprechaun · Dec 21, 2007, 02:02 PM // 14:02

Hundred blades (being your only sword elite option in Prophecies) is quite handy, especially when combined with Final Thrust, use Hundred Blades combined with "For Great Justice!" to produce large amounts of adrenaline every 8 seconds to power the godly skill that is Final Thrust.
Something like:

[skill]Hundred Blades[/skill]
[skill]Sever Artery[/skill]
[skill]Gash[/skill]
[skill]Final Thrust[/skill]
[skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill]
[skill]Flurry[/skill] (will need a zealous weapon)
[skill]Healing Signet[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

If you don't want to use a zealous weapon you could replace Flurry and Healing signet with Rush and Frenzy, just remember to watch out for lots of damage coming your way and then cancel Frenzy with Rush.
Also Hundred Blades is only capped on the end mission of Prophecies, which (depending on where you are now) could take some time for you to get.

~A Leprechaun~

Faer · Dec 21, 2007, 02:10 PM // 14:10

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Defy Pain, though hated by many, is a good skill to bring.

Wasting your Elite slot for extra health and a little armor that you don't need is never a good idea.

chris10188 · Dec 23, 2007, 03:45 AM // 03:45

im using an axe now
i just purchased a elite tome for 8k[ yes i prolly got ripped but who cares] and i learned evis.
weither that was a good choice for my first elite im not sure of but whats done is done
anybody help me out with a build? im using:
Eviscerate
axe twist
penetrating attack
executioners strike
for great justice
flurry
resurrect
healing breeze

level 19
healing- 8
strength-2
axe mastery- 11+3 [major rune]
tactics-8+1 [came with helm]

Yichi · Dec 23, 2007, 03:53 AM // 03:53

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Originally Posted by chris10188

im using an axe now
i just purchased a elite tome for 8k[ yes i prolly got ripped but who cares] and i learned evis.
weither that was a good choice for my first elite im not sure of but whats done is done
anybody help me out with a build? im using:
Eviscerate
axe twist
penetrating attack
executioners strike
for great justice
flurry
resurrect
healing breeze

level 19
healing- 8
strength-2
axe mastery- 11+3 [major rune]
tactics-8+1 [came with helm]

You might wanna try a different build.

replace your helm with an axe mastery helm. it will be more useful to you. the major is ok for a warrior.

run 14 axe, 10 stregnth, 9 tactics, rest in air (should be 5 total after using your axe helm and rune and minor runes everywhere else)

rush
frenzy
penetrating
eviscerate [e]
executioners
heal sig
shock
res sig

This is the standard shock/axe bar that was used back in the days of proph only skills. you can replace penetrating with bulls strike for an additional kd and watch frenzy/heal sig combo as you can get hurt.

and whatever you decide, drop heal breeze